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Osho’s experiences with Suicide

 Once I was sitting by the side of the Ganges in Allahabad alone, in a very lonely spot, and I saw a man jump into the river. I thought he must be taking a bath, but then he started shouting, "Help! Save me!"--he was drowning.

I don't believe in saving anybody, but I thought that this is a totally different case. So I jumped in after him and I pulled him out. It was hard, he was a very big and fat fellow, but somehow I brought him out. And he started being very angry with me. He said, "Why did you save me?"

I said, "This is something! You were shouting, `Save me, help me!' I am not a person to save anybody, but there was nobody else here, and I thought that this is a totally different context. But why are you getting angry?"

He said, "I was really going to commit suicide."

"Then," I said, "why did you start shouting, `Save me, help me'? You should have committed suicide--I would not have disturbed you. I was simply sitting silently, I was not interfering with you."

He said, "What to do? I wanted to commit suicide, and with a total decisiveness I had jumped in. But when the cold water touched me, I forgot all that, and when I started drowning and came up, I don't know how, but I started shouting, `Help me, save me!'"

I said, "Don't be worried. Come here."

He said, "What do you mean?"

I said, "You just come close to me." He came. I pushed him back into the water. He went under once and started shouting again, "Save me, help me! What are you doing?"

I said, "Now I am not going to be worried. I did wrong the first time--please forgive me for that time. Now I will simply sit here and see you commit suicide."

He said, "This is not"--and it was difficult to say anything because he was going down and up--"This is not a joke! Just save me. I don't want to commit suicide!"

Somebody else jumped in and saved him. I said, "You are doing something wrong because that fellow wants to commit suicide."

And that fellow said, "No, I have dropped the idea. It is too difficult, I will find some easier way. This going under water and coming up--it is too much for me." transm32

Once it happened a friend of mine was bent upon committing suicide, so everybody was advising him but he wouldn't listen.

His father came running to me and he said, "Now it seems it is beyond us". The father had always been against me but now he thought, "Maybe this is the last resort". So I said, "I am coming."

I went and I listened to the man, and I said, "Perfectly good! I don't feel it is right, but if still you decide to commit suicide I will help you because I'm your friend! If you want to commit suicide, good! I don't feel it is right because if I were in your place I wouldn't commit suicide because it looks foolish! Because a girl has refused you, you want to commit suicide. There are millions of girls and this is not the only woman. Within a month you will forget; you will fall in love again! But if you still think to, it is perfectly good! It is your life!"

The father became very much disturbed. He said, "We have brought you to help him not to do it!"

I said, "Who are you to help him?--because when you gave birth to him you never asked him if he wanted to be born or not. Now why should you ask? If he wants to commit suicide he should be given all freedom."

I took the man to my house. I said, "Come with me. If you are going to commit suicide, let us enjoy. One night be with me because maybe we will meet somewhere, maybe we will never meet again."

So he came with me, and by and by he started thinking, because I was not trying to convince him. I said, "We will put the alarm on and at four o'clock I will drive you to a beautiful place where you can jump into the river...and I can say good-bye too!"

At four o'clock when the alarm went and I started pulling him out of his bed, he said, "Are you my enemy or what? I don't want to commit suicide!"

I said, "This is not right. If you have decided it is perfectly good!"

He said, "But I don't want to commit suicide. Why are you forcing me?"

I said, "I'm not forcing!"

And he has not committed suicide! Now he has a wife and children and he avoids me because whenever he comes to see me I say, "What has happened now? You were thinking that you would never fall in love again; you fell in love again!"

And he says, "In fact I am happy that that woman refused; she was not for me! I would have always been in trouble, her husband is in trouble. And I have found a better woman."

THE SUICIDAL IDEA ARISES BECAUSE OF INTELLIGENCE

Beloved Osho:
Before taking sannyas, I WAS ON THE VERGE OF COMMITTING SUICIDE. Now I am too happy to say, but still I am searching for something I don't know. Osho, after all, what do I want? Please say something.

//Osho://
SANNYAS IS A REAL SUICIDE. You say, "Before taking sannyas, I was on the verge of committing suicide." You have committed it -- and you have committed it on a deeper plane. DESTROYING THE BODY WOULD NOT HAVE HELPED MUCH. You would have been born again in a similar pattern of body, because your mind would have remained the same.

BY COMMITTING SUICIDE, by jumping into a river, or in the ocean, or from a hilltop, YOU CAN DESTROY THE PHYSICAL PART OF YOU. But your physical part is not basic, your mental part is the base. Your mental part carries the blueprint for the physical. Your mind will jump into another womb and will start gathering another physical part. It will be born again.

SUICIDE IS USELESS. I am not against suicide because it is a crime, I am against suicide because it is futile, it is foolish, it is stupid.

IF YOU REALLY WANT TO COMMIT SUICIDE, then become a sannyasin. Then you will be destroying the mind, the deep blueprint for your future lives. That's what Buddha said -- become a srotapanna, enter the stream. Rather than jumping from the cliff, rather than jumping into the ocean and dying a physical death, JUMP INTO A BUDDHA AND DIE A SPIRITUAL DEATH. That's what sannyas is all about -- dying in me. It is carrying your own cross.

IF YOU ARE REALLY FED UP WITH YOUR LIFE, then destroy the very possibility of its being repeated again and again -- become a srotapanna. Then you will become a skridagamin; once more you will come. Then you will become an anagamin; no more you will come.

THE ANAGAMIN IS THE ONE WHO HAS COMMITTED REAL SUICIDE; he never comes back. He is really finished with the world, he has closed his accounts with the world. He has now far better ways of being. He does not come into this mess, he does not descend into this darkness, this ugly hell. He goes on soaring higher and higher towards the very source of light.

You say, "Before taking sannyas, I was on the verge of committing suicide."

In fact, ONLY A PERSON WHO IS ON THE VERGE OF SUICIDE CAN BE A REAL SANNYASIN. When you are really fed up with life, bored with it, looking at its ridiculous absurdity, the vicious circle moving round and round and leading nowhere... WHEN YOU UNDERSTAND THAT NOTHING IS HAPPENING IN IT AND YOU ARE UNNECESSARILY SUFFERING -- you are becoming more and more dark, heavy, weighty, you are losing wings; you are becoming more and more like a dead thing... When you see this -- that life is killing you, not making you really alive -- then two doors open: suicide or sannyas.

Let me tell you, in the East, few people commit suicide. In the West, many more people commit suicide. The eastern people think that they are less suicidal, that's why it is so. Western psychologists think that the western mind is more suicidal, that's why it is so. Neither what the eastern people say, nor what western psychoanalysts say is the truth.

The truth is that in the West, sannyas has disappeared, so whenever one is fed up with life, only one alternative is available -- suicide. In the East, sannyas is as much an alternative as suicide. If you count sannyasins and the persons who commit suicide in the East, then the number will come exactly the same. There will be no difference.

SANNYAS IS A TRANSFORMATION OF LIFE; SUICIDE IS AN ESCAPE FROM LIFE. In both the ways, you go beyond. In both the ways, you get rid of this so-called life. But by suicide, it is only a temporary thing -- again you will be back, again and again you will be back.

WITH SANNYAS, THE DOOR OPENS. You may not come back, or, even if you come, you will come in a better way, more aware. Even if you come, you will come to learn something, to mature.

In the East, the whole concept of growth is to grow out of life, to grow beyond life.

SANNYAS IS CREATIVE, SUICIDE IS DESTRUCTIVE. In suicide, you are simply doing something desperate. In sannyas, you are doing something very deliberate to transform your ways, your very style of life. In fact, it is not with life that you are fed up, IT IS WITH YOUR WAY OF LIFE. It is not really with life that you are fed up -- because in fact you don't know what life is -- but with your pattern of life, THE NARROWING THAT YOU HAVE MADE YOUR LIFE, the tunnel-like phenomenon that you have created out of your life, the imprisonment that you created out of your life.

You don't know what life is, YOU KNOW ONLY A TUNNEL THING -- dark, dirty, confining, crushing, crippling, paralyzing -- AND IN THE END YOU SEE THERE IS NOTHING BUT DEATH. So what is the point of being tortured? Why not commit it today? If it is going to happen tomorrow, then why wait for tomorrow? That is the logic of the suicide.

In fact, people who commit suicide are more intelligent than those who never think about it. Only idiots never commit suicide; only idiots are never bored; only idiots never become aware of the futility of their life...

Intelligent people are bound to think sometimes, 'What is the point of it all? Why am I going? For what? Nothing has happened, nothing seems to happen, nothing can be hoped out of it -- the whole thing seems to be hopeless. Then why go on?' THE SUICIDAL IDEA ARISES BECAUSE OF INTELLIGENCE. So, I say, idiots never think about suicide; intelligent people think about suicide.

BUT THOSE WHO ARE REALLY INTELLIGENT -- not moderately intelligent but at the very peak of their intelligence -- THEY THINK OF SANNYAS. Because they think, 'This whole exists. If I am not able to find the meaning of it, maybe it is my style that is not allowing me to find the meaning of it. If I am not capable of being happy, maybe somewhere I have put conditions which don't allow me to be happy. MAYBE THERE IS ANOTHER WAY TO LIVE.' That 'another way to live', that alternative way to live, is what sannyas is.

'Can't I live non-ambitiously? AMBITIOUSLY I HAVE LIVED AND FOUND MISERY COMES, grows more, becomes intense... suffering and suffering and suffering. I have tried ambition; now let me try non-ambition. Let me have a one hundred and eighty degree turn. Let me be converted.'

CONVERSION MEANS A ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY DEGREE TURN, ABOUT-TURN. 'Greed I have tried; now I will try no-greed. Possessiveness I have tried; now I will try sharing. Mind I have tried; now I will try no-mind, meditation. Sex I have tried; now I will try love, compassion.

'I HAVE LIVED IN AN UNNATURAL WAY -- the way the society has forced on me. Now let me try the natural way -- the way of tao, the way of dhamma, the way of rit. I have lived in conflict, struggle, fighting; now let me try surrender, now let me try let-go. I have been trying to go upstream; NOW LET ME TRY GOING DOWNSTREAM, WITH THE STREAM, WHEREVER IT LEADS.' This is what sannyas is.

So, let me repeat. THE MOST STUPID PERSON NEVER THINKS ABOUT SUICIDE. Of course, he cannot even dream about sannyas. He has not that much intelligence to look into the futility of so-called life. In the middle are those intelligent people who become aware that life is futile, but who are not too intelligent to become aware that 'maybe it is just my style, not life itself'. They think of suicide, and they sometimes commit suicide.

Then there are the pinnacles of intelligence -- a Buddha, a Christ, a Lao Tzu, a Zarathustra -- who immediately see the point: 'I AM MISSING BECAUSE MY WAYS ARE WRONG.' And they change their ways. They change their life pattern radically. That radical transformation is sannyas.

I would like to say to you that YOU HAVE REALLY COMMITTED SUICIDE -- and in a better way, in a very intelligent way; the way it should be committed. You have become a sannyasin.

OSHO
The Discipline of Transcendence
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OSHO on Trust

It is reported about one great mystic, Milarepa:

When he went to his Master in Tibet, he was so humble, so pure, so authentic, that other disciples became jealous of him. It was certain that he would be the successor. And of course there was politics, so they tried to kill him.

One day they said to him, "If you really believe in the Master, can you jump from the hill? If you really believe, if the trust is there, then nothing -- no harm is going to happen." And Milarepa jumped without even hesitating for a single moment. They rushed down because it was almost a three-thousand-foot deep valley. They went down to find his scattered bones, but he was sitting there in a lotus posture, very happy, tremendously happy.

He opened his eyes and said, "You are right; trust saves."

They thought it must be some coincidence, so when the house was on fire one day, they told him, "If you love your Master and you trust, you can go in." He rushed in to save the woman and the child who were left inside. He came, and the fire was too great and they were hoping that he would die, but he was not burned at all. And he became more and more radiant, because the trust...

One day they were going somewhere, they were to cross a river, and they told him, "You need not go in the boat. You have such great trust; you can walk on the river" -- and he walked.

That was the first time the Master saw him. He was not aware that he had been told to jump into the valley and told to go into the burning house; he was not aware. But that time he was there on the bank and he saw him walking, and he said, "What are you doing? It is impossible!"
And Milarepa said, "Not impossible at all! I am doing it by your power, sir."

Now the Master thought, "If my name and my power can do this to this ignorant, stupid man.... I have never tried it myself"...so he tried. He drowned. Nothing has been heard about him after that.

Even an unenlightened Master, with deep trust, can revolutionize your life. And the reverse is also true: even an enlightened Master may not be of any help. It depends on you, it depends totally on you.

Osho, The Beloveds Vol. 1 #4

RELIGION IS LIKE A PENIS

 

RELIGION IS LIKE A PENIS
Is good to have one...
It's fine to be proud of it...
But please don't whip it out in public and start waving it around...
And PLEASE don't shove it down my children's throats...